The Battle for Alterac Valley - Not the best of days for the Alliance 12/15/09

I fought in 27 battles for Alterac Valley tonight on Wranngar, 14 wins and 13 losses. It was not the best day for the Alliance in there today.

I hate battleground achievements, they really screw up the battleground. The one everyone is working on now is With a Little Helper from My Friends. This is where you use a machine, located outside most cities, and in the middle of Dalaran, to transform yourself into a Gnome Santa's Helper. If you are a Druid and you shape shift it removes it. The objective of this achievement is to get 50 honorable kills while wearing it. If you die it removes it. Well, everyone wants to turtle so they can get their 50 kills. No one wants to enter into combat and take a chance on dying and having it removed. Druids will not shape shift to fight so they are useless. I personally will not do this one. I will not go into any battleground and stand around while everyone else is fighting. I do the transformation but it gets removed as soon as I go into combat because I shift into cat form.

We had a few battles but no turtles so I didn't get a lot of kills tonight, I only got around 350. That did put me over 96,000 though so I should have my title in the next 4 or 5 days. We did The Alterac Blitz twice tonight and the Horde did it twice. The Horde are killing Vann now without waiting for towers even when they are not doing the Blitz so we lost a lot that way. Some people just will not try Drek with the towers up, they say there is not enough honor. I am not there for honor so I don't care about that, I like to win. Even though I am only in there for kills I fight every battle to win. When everyone is turtled in DB I am stealthing out and trying to get towers, I always get the Coldtooth Mine when we are turtling and I keep capping it when the Horde caps it back. I am also trying to get forward GY's so we can advance.

These people complain about a 35 minute battle. They should have been there in the old days when there were no reinforcements and the only way you won was by killing the opponents General, those battles could last for days. I have been in 4-5 hour AV's myself where you could get a few thousand kills. I hear people talk about battles that lasted for days. Those were the good old days and I wish they were back but so many people complained, they put in the reinforcements. Now a 40 minute battle is long.

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Warsong Gulch - Daily Battleground 12/15/09

Warsong Gulch was my daily battleground today. I fought in 5 battles on Wranngar, all losses. The Alliance truly have no clue whatsoever how to fight in WSG, it is sad...

We lost 4 of the battles horribly, 3 of them we never even capped a flag, everyone was too busy fighting in the middle which accomplishes nothing. The last one was close for a little while. I tried to run the flag in all of them, but there was no flag support in the first 4 so I never even made it into our base with the Horde flag. In one of those battles I was telling people there were 5 defending the Horde flag in their flag room, I needed some help. Everyone was fighting in the middle and no one wanted to come into the flag room and help clear it out. I had a total of 6 returns in the 5 battles I was in but it did no good, no one else was doing anything so it was all for nothing.

In the last battle I was in there were 3 of us who knew what we were doing. Me, a Hunter and a Priest. I capped the flag 2 times and had 2 returns in that one. A couple other people had returns. But when we had 2 flags capped, the Horde had none, the Horde decided it was time to get serious and the three of us could no longer carry the whole group. The Horde ended up winning that one with a 3 cap.

The leader of that battle was telling the Hunter that was supporting me when I was carrying the flag, when he called the other players retards that had no clue what they were doing, that he wasn't pulling his weight because he had 8 deaths and 0 kills. The BG leader had 7 killing blows he was bragging about. Obviously the BG leader had no clue because WSG is not about kills, it is about capping the Horde flag and defending our flag. The BG leader had no caps and no returns. I would say he was the one that failed in that battle. I guess I wasn't pulling my weight in that one either, I had 0 killing blows, 6 deaths, 2 caps and 2 returns. Maybe I just don't know how to fight in WSG after all... I hate fighting in WSG and that is why. I did a post earlier about fighting to win in WSG, you can read it here.

I might try to complete this tomorrow but with any luck I will get on after the daily's roll over and I can drop it.

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How to Fight to Win in Warsong Gulch

I am posting this because it has become more and more obvious that Alliance have no clue how to fight in WSG. It is actually very simple to win in WSG if you have a clue what you are doing. Unfortunately most people do not have a clue what they are doing...

Lets go over the objectives first. The main objective in WSG is to capture the enemy flag while keeping the enemy from capturing your flag. This is not done by fighting in the middle. This is not done by giving your flag carrier no support. Your flag carrier should not be on their own, they should have at least one healer and one DPS supporting them the entire time they have the flag. When the enemy has your flag everyone that is not supporting the flag carrier should be trying to get it back. This is not done by fighting in the middle unless the enemy flag carrier is in the middle, then you fight the flag carrier.

Is anyone starting to see the common theme here? NOTHING is accomplished by fighting in the middle unless your flag is there, and support your flag carrier.

The most common places for the enemy to take your flag for safekeeping, when you also have their flag, is their roof, their graveyard or their flag room. Note: None of those places are located in the middle. Those are the places you should be when the enemy has your flag, not in the middle.

Ok, let's recap:

Objective 1: Capture enemy flag. Hint: It is not located in the middle.

Objective 2: Support your flag carrier. They should have at least one healer and one DPS supporting them the entire time they have the flag.

Objective 3: Do not let the enemy capture your flag. Your flag is that thing leaving a blue (or red if Horde) streak across the field, get it back. To get your flag back, kill whoever has it then right click on your flag while it is standing there, this will return it to your base.

Objective 4: DO NOT fight in the middle, this accomplishes nothing. The only person you should be fighting with in the middle is the enemy flag carrier. If the enemy flag carrier is not in the middle you shouldn't be either.

In battle after battle, that I have had the misfortune of being in, (I only fight in WSG when it is my daily battleground) we have lost because everyone is fighting in the middle. The enemy flag carrier can run right past them, they pay no attention to them, they are too busy fighting in the middle...

This is not rocket science yet so many people can not get it right...

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The Battle for Alterac Valley 12/14/09

The battle for Alterac Valley rages on. Today I fought in 22 Battles on Wranngar. We had 14 wins and 8 losses. We managed to pull off one "The Alterac Blitz". We got that one in just under the wire, when I looked at the score card it said 7 minutes so we must have had about a second to spare. Unless it is actually 8 minutes on the score card because you are in there for 2 minutes before the gate opens, I am not sure about that.

We had one really good battle. The Horde tried to turtle and it backfired on them as it often does lately. That created a prolonged battle around the Iceblood Graveyard area ending in a battle we won by 16 reinforcements. Talk about close. In that battle we were having the usual problems with people not guarding stuff. I was in Tower Point twice and called out for more help because there were only 2 of us in there. There were people I could see at IBGY, and 6 or 7 people rode by but no one stopped... People were saying "defend TP and we got it" but no one was willing to actually do it I guess. Anyway a Ret Pally, is there anything more pathetic than a Ret Pally? If there is I haven't seen it. This Ret Pally comes in along with a Resto Druid and the rest is history. They killed the person with me so I switched to bear form and called out for help again. No one came... Anyway there was no way I was going to win as the Pally was healing itself and the Druid was healing it too. After a pretty long fight they killed me. People seemed to be pretty disappointed we lost TP and I told them if they didn't want to come help guard it when we had it then STFU. After that was the long battle and the eventual close win.

They have a new achievement in AV this year, With a Little Helper from My Friends. I don't know where they come up with this crap but that's all anyone wanted to do. You need to get 50 kills while transformed into Santa's helper. Everyone wanted to turtle. I told them to turtle on their own time, I was there to win. I can't do this quest, no Druid can unless they just want to hang around and not do anything. When you shape shift you lose the buff. I don't know of any Druid that can fight in their spec without shape shifting. A caster has to shift into Moonkin form, a Feral has to shift into cat or bear form and and Resto has to shift into a tree. This achievement is unfair to Druids and I think it is time for a revolt. Anyway the battleground was full of Gnomes in red costumes for this one. I guess that will go on until Christmas.

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